12 Conclusions

This narrative is based on the record of an electronic note taker (ENT) hired to provide deaf attendees with a rendering of what people said in real time. It is a phonetic account, first and foremost, taken down in the heat of the moment. An echo of what was said rather than a reflection of what might have been written before or since.

Sandra Saer: My mother was extraordinary. One of her many sayings was: ‘Patience and perseverance made a bishop of His Reverence’.

.I don’t have a lot to say. It has all been said. We have taken a dramatic step forward by what has been said and how we have been ignited by what has been said. That process will go on. I have another saying – We are not here for whom the bell tolls, we are here for whom the bell chimes.

I would like to thank everybody here. We have lost some people. For coming here and taking part in an amazing day of talks and discussions and chats over meals. I would like to thank you all very much. I want to thank Paula and Natasha. These are our word people. They are notetakers and have done an amazing job. They will let Richard have what they have done. If you visit the rebuilding bridges website, you will find all the proceedings of this event. I think that will probably astonish you. You sometimes cannot take everything in.

I think I have said enough.

New speaker: What happens with those resolutions now?

Sandra Saer: They go into the proceedings.

Richard: I will open this to how to proceed next. I’m not sure.

Gavin Ashenden: I’m a hard-bitten churchman. I don’t think much more can be achieved within the Church of England. Neither the Bishop of Chichester will go further than they have gone. This meeting might want to give some thought to whether we step up the campaign to make it more public. Charles Moore and Peter Hitchins are allies.

There are procedural mechanisms. You can take a petition to Parliament if you can get 10,000 votes. I would like to suggest that we find some form of words that would attract wider support than just us. If we get help from Charles and Peter that will be in a public forum. I can’t think what else to do.

New speaker: Peter Hitchins is working on a campaign to not legalise cannabis.

Gavin Ashenden: I’m sure he can manage 2 causes at once.

New speaker: What about renaming this house?

Gavin Ashenden: Anglicans can threaten to stop paying money. If you have support in the congregation you can suggest you feel so strongly about this. They may suffer a legacy of deprivation. They will take that seriously. The other is you withdraw yourselves. Some people have done that. That don’t like that at all. They are both serious. You have to decide if you feel seriously about it.

New speaker: These resolutions will be forwarded?

Gavin Ashenden: If you don’t have a sanction, people will ignore you. Should they not have the impact you envisage you might want to consider something else.

Richard: There is a practical way forward with the General Synod. The meeting later this month will be important. They need to see … I think we can do a lot in bringing the issue to people’s attention by going to the Synod’s representation. The 7th February is the deadline for people to make their proposals to the General Synod. I’m struggling to think of practical ways to do so. I sense if we want to do something now we need to really push our Synod representatives. Each one.

I know you might have a different view Gavin. I’m trying to … it seems such a big thing to somehow change this whole attitude and bureaucracy in the Church of England. Martin Sewell and David Lamming have produced this proposal. They need to get 100 signatures and are struggling. They need it within a few weeks. If we can all write to our General Synod representatives that will get through somehow. Then more practical action might be able to take place.

I did a petition and got 2,000 signatures. That is one reason I’m here. It played a part but didn’t make an iota of difference. It did some good. I think maybe the next step together is to go to the General Synod representatives.

New speaker: Can we have the name and address of who to write to?

Richard: Martin sent me the link to names. There are no addresses or emails. I’m thinking that maybe with the chronology I can provide you with the names, addresses and telephone numbers of the representatives.

New speaker: Does that need to be done by 7th?

Richard: As soon as possible.

New speaker: Can it be care of or care of you?

New speaker: The Synod is our first port of call. The other approach must be via the IICSA. They are going to readdress the issues.

New speaker: May we thank our chairperson and to Richard for organising it.

Gavin Ashenden: Hip hip hooray. Let’s pray.

Father, we thank you for the gift of this day and bringing people together and the opportunity to speak out. We pray for wisdom, more courage and endurance. We ask your will be done and kingdom come. May the spirit be on your homes. Amen.


09 Marilyn Billingham: Bishop Bell and Gustav Holst

The Whitsuntide Festivals 1916 – 1934

This presentation, part of a wider study, foregrounds the respectful and deep friendship that developed between the Gustav Holst and George Bell which stemmed from their professional collaboration in Holst’s Whitsuntide Festivals. The first festival took place in 1916 when Holst brought together his very different choirs from St Paul’s Girls’ School, Hammersmith and the choir from the Morley College for Working Men and Women in Waterloo Road. With just the two exceptions of Whitsun 1919 and 1929 such events were held annually until 1934 the year Holst died. In 1928 the festivities took place at Canterbury Cathedral when George Bell was the Dean and from 1930 – 34 in Chichester. The final weekends were based in Bosham.

Gustav Holst (1874 – 1934), and his daughter Imogen were committed to bringing music to ALL people. They were nothing if not inclusive. In this commitment Gustav was heavily influenced by connections with his near contemporaries William Morris and George Bernard Shaw and of course his very close friend and colleague (Rafe) Ralph Vaughan Williams. Holst had known financial hardship in his own family. His father had to borrow in order for Gustav to study at the RCM and in order to save money he walked from Cheltenham to London to take up his place.

Soon after moving to London, in 1893 when he enrolled as a student at the Royal College of Music Holst became an active member of the Hammersmith Socialist Club which met at Kelmscott house, the London home of the Morris’s and where George Bernard Shaw and other socialist luminaries would regularly meet, socialise and lecture. Very quickly he became an active member of the society and in 1897 became conductor of the pre-existing Hammersmith Socialist Choir. Fiona McCarthy in her excellent biography of Morris briefly refers to Holst as often seen in Hammersmith ‘’on the official socialist cart playing a harmonium.” There was a tradition of choral singing in the socialist movement of the time, socialist choirs were not unusual, and for the retiring and rather self – effacing Holst this seemed to be his way of making a contribution to the socialist cause.

In his personal and professional life however, a living had to made and following the resignation of Vaughan Williams from the Passmore Edwards Settlement in 1904 Holst accepted the post of Musical Director. The Passmore Edwards was founded in 1880. It was modelled on the probably more famous Whitechapel settlement Toynbee Hall and largely run, like Toynbee Hall, by young people from the ancient universities and public schools to provide education and support for the local working class families.

In 1907, the year Imogen was born, he was appointed Musical Director at the Morley College for Working Men and Women, which still thrives at their college on Westminster Bridge Road, but was then based in rooms at the Old Vic under the auspices of Lillian Baylis, its founder, who also had an overwhelming and in her case rather eccentric commitment to a practical Christian socialism. Imogen describes the time at Morley as bringing ‘incalculable joy’ to her father, though most of the evening class students were quite untrained. She goes on to say that when new members of the choir were asked ‘Do you know your notes?’ the most usual reply was ‘well some of them’. But Holst taught them the basic rudiments of music, skills for composition and the opportunity to perform to the highest standards. Their programmes included what is claimed to be the first public performance of Purcell’s Fairy Queen since the time of Purcell himself. They sang Bach cantatas, the polyphonic music of Byrd, Vittoria and Wheelkes and Tallis and music written specifically for them by his friend Ralph Vaughan Williams and of course the rounds and folk song arrangements for which Holst is so well known.

In the mean time Holst had been appointed Director of Music at St. Paul’s Girls’ School in Hammersmith. A post he held from 1906 until his death in 1934. With our twenty and twenty first century sensitivities there might seem to be a contradiction between his commitment to open access to education and the arts and his role at St Paul’s but of course at the time opportunities to teach as a music specialist in schools were restricted to provision in the independent and privileged sector. The elementary ‘all through’ schools had no specialists at all. Further an academic education for girls was itself still very new. The Girls’ Public Day School Trust was in its earliest years, established in 1887 and St Paul’s itself opened in 1902 only 4 years before his appointment in 1906. Perhaps this was sufficient for Holst to feel that he was contributing to progressive social change. Furthermore of course he had a family to keep. All that aside his new full time post did not stop him continuing at Morley and taking his ‘Can’t Sing Choir’ to the slums in the East End of London. (The Can’t Sing Choir still exists at Morley – and very quickly its members discover that in fact they can!)

Probably the next most significant decision of the Holsts, as it relates to this project is the decision to establish their family home in Thaxted Essex which led to his close collaboration with its Anglo-Catholic Socialist Vicar Conrad Noel known as the ‘Red Vicar of Thaxted’. He is famous in particular for displaying in Church along side the St George’s flag, the red flag and from time to time the flag of Sinn Fein.

The Holsts moved to Thaxted in 1913 and stayed until 1925. Holst and Conrad Noel quickly became firm friends. The vicar and his wife were closely identified with the arts and crafts movement and committed to the promotion of folk traditions in dance and music for their own sake and as a way to counter what they saw as the negative and alienating impact of industrialisation and mass production. The Noels had close links with Cecil Sharpe and incorporated dancing and procession into the life of the village and the liturgy of the parish church drawing in large numbers of Thaxted people. It is easy to see how Holst and actually his daughter Imogen who became a very active member of the English Folk Song and Dance Society felt they could contribute to the cultural life of the village.

Holst soon began assisting with music at the church training the choir and acting as assistant organist. He supported Noel in the transformation of liturgy extending the musical repertoire, including folk song based ceremony and procession into Thaxted worship. Holst very soon began to include Morelyites (as they were affectionately known) into the Thaxted musical scene and before long was discussing with Noel the possibility of developing this collaboration further and to institute an annual music festival in the village. This was realised in 1916 when Holst brought together his very different choirs from St Paul’s Girls’ School, Hammersmith and from the Morley College for Working People south of the river to join the Thaxted musicians for a 4 day festival of music over the Whitsun bank holiday weekend. Writing to his friend Ralph Vaughan Williams he reported
“There were about 15 Morleyites and lO St. Paul’s girls (Paulinas), 10 outsiders and 10 Thaxted singers. The latter did grandly. Most of them work in a factory here and I have been asked to give them quicker music next year. It seems that they sang all day every day at their work for several months and the slow notes of the Bach chorales seriously affected their output. ”
The repertoire included
Bach Short Mass No. 2 in A
Two Bach cantatas Sleepers Awake and Soul, Array Thyself
Numbers of 16th and 17th century motets
S Wesley’s Sing aloud
Extracts from Purcell’s Fairy Queen and King Arthur
And that was just some of the formally prepared music. There were rounds and part songs accompanied by violins, piano and penny whistles, folk songs and Morris dancing, a melo-drama in the barn and so it went on…..making merry 14 hours a day.

It is worth noting that among the many pieces Holst wrote for the Whitsuntide Singers was his famous setting of the Cornish carol Tomorrow shall be my Dancing Day under the title This have I done for my true love. He dedicated this to Conrad Noel and it is commemorated on one of the Thaxted bells with the inscription ‘I ring for the general dance’

Holst had been turned down for military service on health grounds. He was seriously short sighted, he had developed neuritis in his left hand and was asthmatic. He never had a strong constitution and died of heart failure following surgery when just 59. There were only two more Whitsun Festivals in Thaxted in 1917 and 1918 It is not quite clear what caused the difficulties. Certainly Conrad Noel was a charismatic figure, single minded and politically uncompromising. It is suggested that the High Mistress at St Paul’s didn’t think this was quite the thing for her girls. It seems too that Noel publically admonished the musicians for not taking the political aspects of the festivals sufficiently to heart. There was no similar festival in 1919 whilst Gustav was working for the YMCA in Constantinople and in 1920 the Festival was held at Dulwich College. Following this there was a festival each year in various parish churches and schools in London until 1927. This is when George Bell, then Dean of Canterbury became involved. He became host and patron to the 1928 festival which took place in Canterbury Cathedral

In October 1927 Gustav received an invitation from the then Dean of Canterbury, one George Kennedy Allen Bell to write incidental music for a play to be written by John Masefield and to be directed by Charles Rickets. This was a radical proposal at the time, for although church dramas had been common place in the middle ages, probably most famously those we know now as the mystery plays, the practice had fallen out of favour. Plans for this production to be called The Coming of Christ, were submitted for the approval of the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Randall Davidson, his consent was given on the condition that the figure of Christ should not be portrayed to the audience. A challenge, given the title of the play, and as far as I can see a request barely honoured. There were significant problems raised by the organist and choir master at Canterbury which threatened the whole project and many more from fundamentalist Christians which actually didn’t seem to threaten anything. Holst brought his musicians from St Paul’s and Morley who formed the chorus and the collective role of Heavenly Host and the five performances, presented as an act of worship, were attended by some 6,000 people. A retiring collection raised approximately £800, a considerable sum in 1928, of which a substantial proportion was set aside to commission new plays. The first of which according to Michael Short, Holst’s biographer was T.S Elliot’s Murder in the Cathedral.

It is probably fair to say that The Coming of Christ played to mixed reviews but was an exhilarating experience for the performers. Not to mention a historic event which fundamentally transformed the place of drama in the church. This was the most elaborate Whitsun Festival that Holst’s singers had ever attempted and breathed new life into the future festival plans.

It is worth noting here that the colourful costumes were made under the direction of Henrietta Bell. In gratitude for this and for the hospitality of the Bells at Canterbury Holst wrote two rounds which the choir sang in the Deanery garden. The rounds were entitled To Bother Missus Bell and more seriously and with heartfelt thankfulness Within this Place All Beauty Dwells.

Despite the head of steam generated by the first performances and enthusiastic plans to revive the play in 1929 there was no festival that year. A combination of factors contributed to this. George Bell was abroad; Holst during that year was for a considerable time in the USA; his successor as director of Music at Morley, Arnold Goldsburgh was about to resign and Jane Joseph his trusty former pupil and (aman-u-en-ses) amanuenses died. Further there was to be General election.

By 1930 George Bell was Bishop of Chichester and he and the then Dean, Arthur Duncan Jones wasted no time in inviting Holst to bring his next Whitsun Festival here.
Bishop Bell wrote
‘The Dean of Chichester and I are very anxious to persuade you to bring yourself and the Heavenly Host to Chichester Cathedral and Palace for Whitsuntide, 1930’.
Holst swiftly replied
‘Of course the Heavenly Host are longing to come.…though I do not see what a scratchload of amateurs as we are, could do that Dr Conway’s singers could not do infinitely better’.
(Marmaduke Conway was the organist and master of the choristers at this time.)

Duly the weekend festival was held in our cathedral. As usual the music included pieces by Holst’s favourite composers, Purcell, Bach, Byrd, Weelkes and Vittoria. The Whit Sunday evening performance was given by some 120 singers and players from St Paul’s and Morley and a similar number of local musicians including students from Bishop Otter College, now the University of Chichester, approx. 250 in all. On Whit Monday, Holst’s singers performed again for the morning service and in the afternoon sang madrigals in the Bishop’s garden. This was followed by country dancing with the West Sussex Folk Dancers.

At this 1930 Festival Bosham had obviously been discussed as a possible venue for a future festival and became the venue in 1931. Holst in the end, due to poor health, and very pressing composing commitments sadly was unable to direct the singing, Vally Lasker deputised. She had been a Morleyite and eventually became a teacher at St. Paul’s and Holst’s assistant. Later in that year, 1931 Holst brought his choirs to the Cathedral for the August Bank Holiday weekend to sing Vaughan Williams Mass in G Minor which had been dedicated to ‘Holst and his Whitsuntide singers’.
(Interestingly Arthur Robson’s choir The Chichester Chorale sang this setting at their Easter Concert in St George’s Whyke last year).

Holst was in America over the Whitsun weekend in 1932 where he was diagnosed with a duodenal ulcer. The Festival that year returned to Bosham and Chichester. He was able to attend but Vally Lasker conducted ‘Mr Holst’s Singers’. The following Whitsun in 1933 the Festival was again in Bosham and Chichester but Holst was too ill even to attend. In 1934 he was awaiting major surgery but notwithstanding he sent greetings to the Rev. Street, then vicar of Bosham and his Whitsuntide musicians
‘I wish you all Good Luck, Good weather, much playing and almost too much singing and many happy returns of the day (I mean days). And I wish myself the joy of your fellowship at Whitsun 1935’
– a wish to remain unfulfilled. He died on the 25th May 1934 and, as is well known to us all, his memorial service was held in the cathedral one month later – appropriately on 24th June, St. John the Baptist’s Day which is the patronal day of Thaxted Church where it had all begun. Vaughan Williams conducted the Whitsuntide Singers.

The Whitsun weekends continued after Holst’s death in the first instance at Bosham. Following the death of the Rev. Street in 1938 the festivities moved to Boxgrove Priory. The war inevitably interrupted the pattern but after the war the Chichester/Boxgrove weekends were resumed with a red letter day of Sunday 25th May 1947 when the Boxgrove Whit Sunday festival service was chosen to be the first ever broadcast of a Parish Church Communion on the wireless. The final Whitsuntide Festival was in 1958 by then many of the key figures had died and Vally Lasker was in her mid seventies and unable to continue. The Whitsun Festivals had been sustained with few interruptions for some 40 years.

I am interested in documenting the significance of the Whitsun Weekends particular focusing on
(i) the socio-historical context in which the two unlikely groups of students were brought together – Morley College and SPGS and
(ii) the repertoire used at these weekends
As important however is the contribution that this and other such projects of the early twentieth century made to extending access to the arts in education and elsewhere. A corner of our music history where the archival resources have not yet been fully documented or systematically explored.

07 Bishop Gavin Ashenden

This article is based on the record of an electronic note taker (ENT) hired to provide deaf attendees with a rendering of what people said in real time. It is a phonetic account, first and foremost, taken down in the heat of the moment. An echo of what was said rather than a reflection of what might have been written before or since.

Gavin Ashenden: I would like to begin with an anecdote. I was part of the Chapter when the first announcement was made. Like others, the decision was brought to us as if it were a matter of fact. So the Dean said; does anyone have any views? I did train in the law and that gave me a sense of its importance; I suggested we call the house Natural Justice!

Thank you for asking me to speak. If you are here today it’s because you are in no doubt that Bishop Bell is innocent. You’ll be familiar with the conclusion of Lord Carlile’s review and his frustrations. I was glad Bishop Martin took responsibility.

Many of us believe the terms of references stopped Lord Carlile saying Bishop Bell was innocent. I read a statement earlier on – ‘George Bell should be declared innocent’. Still the Archbishop of Canterbury is reluctant to accept the truth. Though his apology has lots of emotive words it came close to a ‘non-apology’ – sorry if you feel hurt by what I did. Welby apologised to the survivors and family – but that’s not an apology to Bishop Bell. When measuring the demands of truth on the ethical scale, it’s near the bottom. Victimhood is at the top. ‘We need to care for her’ – of course we do. No one has ever suggested that anyone who is a victim should experience anything but the utmost care. So why does it not care about Bishop Bell? Let us review how we got to this point.

The scales were weighted against Bishop Bell from the start. Why were the terms of reference not allowed to examine the cogency of Carol’s claim? You might be forgiven for thinking that though the Church was unwilling to look into these allegations more closely.

The response of the Church was to claim that there was further evidence to say Carol’s memories WERE concrete enough. But there was evidence to say that 70-year-old memories were too flimsy. So there was new information, but they wouldn’t tell us what it was. Everything hung upon the reliability of the further accusations. One side was… the other was that there were even more allegations. The safeguarding culture was choosing victimhood over truth. Safeguarding should protect everyone. One problem for the public is that it became impossible to hold the Church to account. Who has read the Briden report? I will add a couple of details. The Church knew the allegations did not bear the weight attributed to them. The most serious was from a man who said his mother had found Bishop Bell engaged in a sex act with another man. She had answered the phone and gone to find him. But cleaners never answered the phone – and he’d been dead 20 years at that time. So the accuser just changed the date.

Another allegation was from a reporter who had interviewed a psychiatric nurse who said she’d been abused by Bishop Bell as a child. Alison also accused Bishop Bell of interfering with her when she was sat on his knee. But she contradicted herself, and when asked if she had been touched in the crotch she said ‘maybe it was my tummy’. Hard not to touch a child on the tummy if they are sat on your lap.

Recall is an active mental process where memories become distorted with time. I had lunch with an old friend who studied law with me – she said I was the only one to get a first, but I didn’t!

Briden’s conclusion says; the allegations are all unfounded. Bishop Bell’s biographer claimed the Church had been caught up in self-justification and said it would maintain the views that got them into so much trouble in the first place. Chandler says the Church are trying to reclaim the narrative. ‘They have nothing to hide behind now – it is quite extraordinary – the various establishments invested so much in this and are unable to climb down. They need to think about how to regain trust’.

It’s part of a growing culture that threatens the freedom of speech. I could be here all day – but you’ll be aware of political correctness. When Marx tried to bring about a revolution, there were also Cultural Marxists who thought they’d have a go. Feminism has a benign side, but also a malign side where the idea is that you could construct your own gender – which led us to gay marriage. You may or may not be in favour of it – and then that led us to transsexualism. It’s all part of the subversion of Judeo-Christian culture. If you criticise this, you are committing political blasphemy. Those who have had power are old Christian white men. The victimhood – those without power – must have more power than those who had it. It’s not an excess of pastoral care. It’s begun to steal the heart of the Church. This is a new form of totalitarianism; if you speak out against it, you could be sacked. The real problem is that it attacks freedom of speech. Bishop Bell is famous for speaking out against totalitarianism, and here we are speaking out against them attacking him 70 years. I am suggesting this is unconsciously done – it’s more than a tragedy, close to blasphemy. All we can do is seek to articulate the process while offering as much pastoral care to anyone who has suffered, without compromising our values. We need to defend Bishop Bell and hold the Archbishop of Canterbury to account.

Sandra Saer: Any questions?

New speaker: Because we’re about to have lunch I don’t want to let this slip – earlier Martin Warner was put on the spot as to why these investigators couldn’t look at Carol’s allegations. His defence was that it would hurt Carol too much. If that’s correct, we need to look carefully at what he said and I want us to hold on to that.

Gavin Ashenden: I almost said; you brought it into the public process! Let’s say it really was mistaken identity which I think is very likely – I don’t disbelieve Carol but I don’t think she would have been able to recognise one from the other, similar uniforms were worn. It’s reprehensible to insist it was Bishop Bell and there is no way it can be anyone else. This is either through pride or the political agenda. But you’re right. He should be held to account.

New speaker: I would like to ask what you would like us to do about it. The majority of us are church members – do we mull it over, is there something we can do as individuals or as a group?

Gavin Ashenden: I worked at the University of Sussex for 25 years. They are further along the progressive road. I think we are culturally in the same place as Germany in 1932 – it’s harder to spot, they don’t wear brown shirts, but people like Germaine Greer are silenced and then you know there’s a problem with democracy. What was Bonhoeffer’s response? He decided to lose, and did lose. He decided to create a confessional church. I think there is scope to creating something similar and am talking to people who share my views. The first thing is to realise what is going on. Bishop Bell would be pleased to know we are looking at freedom of speech.

New speaker: I’m not taken in by this talk of victims. With John Smythe, the victims say the Archbishop of Canterbury knew him. We have to believe him because he says he’s innocent. It’s not balanced.

New speaker: Thank you for what you said and especially confronting politely Martin Warner earlier. There are concerns about the elevation of victimhood. I do think there are important strands in plurality which embrace gender which are important and will still contribute towards a more fair-minded society.

Sandra Saer: Thank you very much. Before you go, I want to make a cri de coeur. Especially Richard – he doesn’t like me saying what he’s done. He has gone to great deal of expense putting these conferences together. I wanted to ask if you would consider contributing, however small.

06 Geoffrey Boys: ‘Mistaken identity?’

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Sandra Saer: Geoffrey would you like to speak?

Geoffrey Boys: Thank you. I have prepared 3 pages. Having listened to the discussions, I have decided to make 2 statements for you to chew over over lunch. They have considerable significance to today.

My title for today was “Mistaken Identity?” My alternative is “Briden?” I’m here today as I gave evidence to Lord Carlile on January 24th 2018 of the possible misidentity of the Bishop. I thought my evidence might be relevant but I was uncertain as to who to tell. I believe mistakes were made by the Church as they failed to look far enough into the information which is now online.

Carol’s identity remains unknown. However, we can identify the house where she stayed and the name of her relative. Knowing her name others may have been able to contribute. I have met a centenarian who knows the relative of Carol when she made the allegations.

I gave evidence to Lord Carlile. I gave evidence to Briden anonymously. It is hard to keep this information anonymous. If you search on the web, you can find the information.

My evidence was received by Lord Carlile on 24th January 2018. I do not think it a coincidence there was a meeting on 29th January and it was announced on 31st January the Church had received more information and there would be a further enquiry.

When I was interviewed on May 29th I was the first witness. I am identified as witness A.

It starts on 12th February. A retired member of the clergy wrote to the Archbishop of Canterbury suggesting there might have been another member of the clergy who could have perpetrated the abuse alleged by Carol. He said Mr Boys has come forward to make a similar allegation.

With regards to both of these episodes, I have decided the allegations against Bishop Bell have not been laid out. It is therefore not necessary for me to investigate other suggestions.
From Witnesses A and D that there might be another member of the clergy, there was no evidence that this was so. The question therefore remains unsolved.

From Witnesses A and D that there might be another member of the clergy, there was no evidence that this was so. The question therefore remains unsolved.

Sandra Saer: Any questions?

New speaker: Why did the lady keep quiet for so long?

Geoffrey Boys: In the Lord Carlile report we are only told about the lady.

New speaker: I’m unclear if your studies and research are able to be in the public domain? It sounds like it is tucked away in your archives.

Geoffrey Boys: That is certainly so. Tucked away in my archives, particularly what I said to Ray Galloway. The further information I offered to Ray was just after he submitted his report. What I have read to you today is in the public arena, particularly using search engines on the web.

Sandra Saer: The George Bell Group have something on their website about mistaken identity. Some of you are members of that group. There is information on who might have been responsible – someone who is not Bishop Bell.

Geoffrey Boys: Academics wrote about this some time ago. There is also recent information online,

New speaker: Is anyone acting on that? Are the Church investigating?

Geoffrey Boys: We were told in the Lord Carlile and Briden reports it was not within their terms of reference.

Sandra Saer: The Bishop commissioned the Briden report. How can he disassociate himself?

Geoffrey Boys: The first investigation with the Briden report was about the question I raised.

New speaker: How can this be taken forward?

Sandra Saer: We have the Briden report that states Bishop Bell was innocent.

New speaker: Are the IICSA looking into the Church of England again? Can we submit it to them?

Geoffrey Boys: I approached Lord Carlile in January and then later they arranged for Briden to talk to me. Another bit of significant information, when I first put my question to Lord Carlile he said there was no truth in it. No truth in my allegation about what I believed happened.

Sandra Saer: You knew other people too who knew about this.

Richard: The Karmi report has relevance. It is next door. That is a way to go into it further. There is a lot of information already which gives more of an insight into who the perpetrator might be.

Geoffrey Boys: It might be more complicated than that. If I direct you to the Karmi report you won’t pick up the whole story. Where Carol stayed is in the public arena.

New speaker: Can we not know that? Where she stayed?

Geoffrey Boys: You have to put 2 and 2 together. Carol makes a statement in her evidence in the Lord Carlile report which says “I stayed at the house nearest to the palace”. Having established that, it was important to ask who lived there. It was occupied from the 1930s to the 1980s by the same person.

New speaker: Who?

Geoffrey Boys: The chauffeur – Mr Monk.

New speaker: Can I suggest … these matters are dealt with by journalists and historians etc. This is so long ago. Evidence is muddled. We cannot arrive at a final truth. I don’t think we should encourage the Church to say perhaps it was this or that. The Church needs to say what it did was wrong in the first place. I’m not saying there isn’t truth in these. It is important that you get to the truth. I don’t think it is helpful to go down these routes.

Geoffrey Boys: I’m not a historian. I have been reading what the historians have said. When I raised the question just over a year ago, I thought that is my job finished; I won’t say any more. I can’t let it go though.

Sandra Saer: Thank you very much indeed.

05 Christopher Hoare, for David Hopkinson

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Sandra Saer: I will now ask Christopher Hoare to speak.

Christopher Hoare: I feel hesitant about addressing you, as you were expecting someone from the top of the tree, not a twig. Some of you know more about this topic than I do. David Hopkinson could not be with us today.

David served in the Navy and then became a clerk in the House of Commons: in 1962 he joined M&G until 1987. He was chair of Harrison and Crossfield, Wolverhampton Brewery, was on the Bank of England advisory committee, he advised on pension funds. He was always publicly minded and cultured. He advised the English Chamber Orchestra, he was governor of well-regarded public schools. He was a church commissioner in 1973. He was on our cathedral development trust, Brighton Pavilion etc. He is a generous donor for a wide number of causes.

He is a fellow of St Anne’s college Oxford, a CBE.

Bishop Bell officiated at David’s wedding. There is a picture of the occasion – Richard has put a copy of David’s book in the library. Bishop Bell remained a friend of the Hopkinsons. I was going to talk about his wartime exploits. I think that is irrelevant.

It was after Bishop Bell’s [?death?] that David was appointed. Bishop Bell visited almost every week when in the country. Mothers and the superior loved him.

The order had funds. I don’t know how many others laid claim to the vision of the house of contemplation. The greatest credit must be his.

There were fears about the longevity of the existing sisters. The building was blessed in 2008 when there were only four still living. All have now become angels. May they rest in their graves.

David said: “I have vested interest in the outcome of the change in name. I have instructed for £50,000 within my will to be given but this is dependent on the change in name. Given my age it needs to happen soon!”


04 Pam Dignum – cathedral guides

This article is based on the record of an electronic note taker (ENT) hired to provide deaf attendees with a rendering of what people said in real time. It is a phonetic account, first and foremost, taken down in the heat of the moment. An echo of what was said rather than a reflection of what might have been written before or since.

Pam Dignum: I have been a guide in the cathedral for 18 years. Attitudes to Bishop Bell have changed – when Colin trained me, we were told the proper terms of reverence for him, the things he had done that we take for granted, like arts festival. We learnt about his work with those in poverty in Britain, about his wartime experiences, and how he said war should be conducted on humane lines. We learnt about his post-war activities, the painter who called him ‘the finest man I have ever met’. He had the freedom of the city.

Colin, I was just praising you for your good training. Come 2008, Bishop Bell was given a much higher focus. There were, that year, an exhibition in the House of Lords, portraits which had been done, workshops for everyone in the education department; there was a study programme for the whole congregation, praised for its reach of theological depth. So the congregation was aware of what he had done. We guides gave one-hour tours on him alone. Bishop Bell felt responsible for everyone, not just the diocese. That’s a big indicator of the man. The guides stressed the importance of Bishop Bell in terms of exchanges with other countries and schools. This was a major feature of my time, and university students here re-enacted his speeches in the House of Lords. He was played by a woman.

In 2015, I was giving a tour and talking about Bishop Bell – the visitor’s officer took me to one side and told me not to mention Bishop Bell at all. My mouth dropped open. We thought this was an overreaction, but we had our instructions. We could recall the sufferings of the victim; a letter was sent to all guides, saying we must think about the abuse survivors. We said nothing until January when we were given new instructions. A letter came from the Dean and Chapter, telling us what to say: ‘It is no longer appropriate to speak of his achievements as though the allegation has not been made.’ The letter told us rather a lot. The first paragraph was about his achievements; the second was about settling a legal claim – ‘some have doubted the investigative process and wanted to look into it themselves… the importance of his work remains, but we recognise the likelihood of the same man who showed moral courage was also responsible for the abuse of a child… Chichester Cathedral is committed to listening to those who have been abused’. Then: ‘this text is intended to give you guidance, but if you prefer to leave Bishop Bell out of your tour, this is perfectly acceptable. If you decide not to, there is no shortage of material. If you do mention him, please be careful to convey the correct tone. 1 in 20 of visitors will have been abused.’

This was clear, indeed; what was the reaction? We did have a meeting with Anthony Cane, to whom we said; you can’t read three paragraphs out to visitors. We also disagreed about where this should be said. Ruth said in front of the memorial, but then said we could sit people down. I said that we needed a shorter version and to be able to mention him by the font. I wrote a short version.
‘Having mentioned Bishop Bell, I have to tell you what the cathedral wants you to know – he was accused of child abuse. The Church apologised, paid compensation, and shows sympathy. But many people feel this has not been proven.’

I felt that was justified. There is no way you can give a tour without mentioning the modern art for which he was the stimulus, or the work with Peace and Reconciliation, without mentioning Bishop Bell.

Some guides did omit him altogether. Another mentioned him without giving an apology and was reprimanded. Jeremy, I don’t know what you did. We are independent people, without a script. We don’t say the same thing. Some visitors knew about Bishop Bell and asked; others didn’t. With a mixed group with, say, two people from China, or a group with children, you have to think on your feet. The flowers under the memorial appeared quite quickly and were sometimes removed. Some had kind messages about him.

Ironically, I had some German exchange students on a tour who had booked their tour before the difficulties. I had a happy hour talking to them and there was a book by Bishop Bell in a display case outside the verger’s room. But references to Bishop Bell were removed from the training manual for new guides. We got a new, slimmer version. The guide book for sale in the shop had the word ‘likelihood’ in it. When we trained new guides, in January 2016 and January 2018 – what do you say to them when you want to talk about Bishop Bell? The head guide told the candidates; don’t mention Bishop Bell when you come to be assessed. I was asked to give a 45-minute talk on Bishop Bell after the training last year, though it wasn’t part of the training. There is plenty to find out if people want to.

There was no official guidebook in English – we must be the only cathedral in England without one. I’ve been told they are under the counter. That’s a loss of revenue as well. At the end of it – I can’t speak for all, but I think the older guides would like freedom to speak on Bishop Bell again. It could be that those have not mentioned him to date may feel free to do so. There is a danger of Bishop Bell being airbrushed out. A boy said to me recently Bishop Bell was a paedophile. What have these children picked up from the renaming of these buildings?

I am looking forward to a new guidebook and a restoration of Bishop Bell to his proper place.

In 2008, this book was on sale in the shop – it’s a plain notebook with his picture on the front and a list of his achievements inside, including some people may not know about, like speaking out against capital punishment [reads quote].

Sandra Saer: Is that still on sale?

Pam Dignum: No. Though it may have sold out. I also have the words of the German ambassador here; ‘he was an exceptional figure’.

Sandra Saer: Any questions?

New speaker: Thank you so much – so much hangs on this declaration of his innocence.

Pam Dignum: Lord Carlile and Briden have spoken, but we are still under the last instructions we had. It’s a matter of conscience.

New speaker: As a former guide, I took absolutely no notice whatsoever – but we must have a guidebook. It’s an embarrassment.

New speaker: I thought the remark about the schoolboy related what he believed – it’s such an important thing you have reminded us of. It is about continuing damage.

Pam Dignum: I think there are eight forms of entry in that school.

New speaker: Explicit lifting of the cloud – it’s to avoid this wrongdoing.

New speaker: Was the first intervention from the Bishop in 2015? It just seems at odds with his protestations earlier…

Pam Dignum: The Dean and the Bishop were seen as a team.

New speaker: It’s very important we get the guidebook, but how can we ensure it doesn’t use the same language that the Dean and Bishop are using? Will guides be able to see drafts?

Pam Dignum: I did write to the Bishop soon after we realised the guidebook said what we thought were the wrong words. I wrote a letter to two guides who had asked what we should say; ‘many objected to the guilt association. Some of us wrote to the Bishop, who said it was not his responsibility’. It was still on sale at the time. We made this clear to the chancellor. We think he was constrained in terms of what we could say. It was as though he was working under difficulties.

Sandra Saer: Could you remind us what was on page 37?

Pam Dignum: It was along the lines of what was said in 2015, about a man of great achievement…

Richard: The book is in the other room.

New speaker: It was a third of the page.

New speaker: It was an inset, in a different colour.

Pam Dignum: It was the ‘likelihood’ that people didn’t like. It didn’t doubt that he had done good things. It wasn’t what people came to the cathedral to hear about.

New speaker: I proofread the book and when this blew up we had to add the page in. I objected to it going in and to the wording. I said; I know the book has not been printed yet. But he went ahead. The Dean and Chapter then decided to pulp it.

New speaker: I can quote it…


‘Since October 2015, some aspects have been called into question… allegations are plausible… it now seems entirely possible that the same man who showed moral courage was also responsible for the abuse of a child’.

Sandra Saer: Thank you.

New speaker: Can I just ask ..? This gentleman raised an important point. I think we should develop that further. There was a contradiction between what the bishop said today.

Sandra Saer: You can ask that question?

Pam Dignum: I don’t mind asking anything providing I have a clear statement.

New speaker: Something to be directed to the bishop in person?

Sandra Saer: I’m not au fait with the dialogue of our church. The Bishop is the head of it. You cannot hide behind the Dean and Chapter.

New speaker: It seems to suggest he might issue instructions when it suits him.

New speaker: Part of the statement was issued by the Bishop.

New speaker: We need to remember there is always balanced authority in the church. The Bishop doesn’t have full authority over the Cathedral. There is a relationship between the Bishop and the parish. The Bishop cannot force entry. I think Bishop Martin doesn’t have the authority you feel he has.

Pam Dignum: The Bishop said he wasn’t responsible for the wording. Who wrote the text?

New speaker: Anthony Kane.

New speaker: Can I add a rider? What you say is right. I have been connected to the diocese and have known several Bishops and Deans. Both Deans and Chapters are subject to influence and pressure. If their congregations revolt … My concern is Bishop Martin doesn’t have the power but he does have the influence. He doesn’t have our convictions. He doesn’t share our convictions. We are seeking to change a climate of opinion. It will affect both Dean and Chapter. We should continue to do it.

Sandra Saer: Thank you Pam.

New speaker: Thank you for keeping the papers. They are very important.

Pam Dignum: I’m interested in record keeping. It is important to have a copy of what was being said. We are aware of subtle changes over time. As guides we have to keep within the limits set. We have to keep the tone right. There are other papers as well.

New speaker: Thank you for the way you chaired it.

Pam Dignum: One guide could not accept it and was asked to leave. As was a door keeper. How many others I can’t say. It did pose difficulties for those with a different viewpoint.

10 Ruth Hildebrandt Grayson


Thank you, Richard, for organising this meeting; and thanks to all of you for showing your support by being present today. By way of introduction, I am the older daughter of Franz Hildebrandt. My father was a very close friend of the late Bishop George Bell from 1933 until the latter’s death in 1958.

When I was first asked to do this talk, in December 2018, we were awaiting the publication of the Briden report and were therefore in a very different situation regarding the George Bell affair. But the report, with its welcome but unsurprising statement that the latest allegations against the Bishop were unfounded, has not changed the essence of what I want to say today. I was concerned then, as I have been for well over a year now, to find a way of making good come out of evil. And I still am. If anything, it has become even more urgent. For we are now concerned with a great deal more than restoring George Bell’s reputation. We are concerned with enhancing it, so that more people will know who he was, what he did, and why he is still important to us today, both here in Chichester and further afield.

The words ‘ecumenist and peacemaker’ that are currently used to describe the late Bishop, when the anniversary of his death is observed every year in the Church of England calendar, are in my opinion frankly inadequate in today’s world. What do those words mean? What might they mean?

The word ‘ecumenist’ is not likely to strike a chord with many people these days. Unlike ‘ecumenism’ and ‘ecumenical’, it isn’t even in the dictionary! Bell was so named because of his belief that it was Christianity, not politics, that could unite even the most divided nations. This was demonstrated especially by his support for and his work with the Confessing Church in Germany before and during the war, and his role in helping to found and promote the World Council of Churches from 1948 onward. Perhaps neither of these sound particularly significant to us now, when the various denominations in this country do so much together these days and when there are so many partnerships, and ‘twinning’ arrangements, between them on an international level as well. But in the 1930s and 1940s, and even later, this was truly pioneering stuff. It required a fair amount both of energy and of courage, especially in view of the enmity that existed between this country and Germany at the time and subsequently between other countries in the Cold War that was to follow, with the new barriers that sprang up between east and west, and between orthodox and other churches. These lasted well beyond Bell’s own lifetime, into the 1980s and even beyond.

And then there’s ‘peacemaker’. This always sounds – wrongly, I know – as a very passive type of person. I know from my own experience at a domestic level that it can be very hard work (as in the case of warring teenagers in our home), often unrecognised, usually thankless. And as with ‘ecumenism’ in the 30s and 40s, it too required a lot of courage. The courage to speak out against the blanket bombing of civilians in German cities such as Dresden. The courage to proclaim the fact that not all Germans were Nazis. These things alone not only made him unpopular among many of his contemporaries in the Church, in political circles, and among much of the public, who branded him a Nazi lover, but probably cost him a well deserved promotion to the highest ranking post the Church of England could offer.

So what terms might we use instead? Other words might be equally inadequate. Instead of playing around with words, let’s ask what George Bell might be doing if he were alive today.

One reason the word ‘ecumenist’ has lost some of its resonance today is perhaps that so much progress has been made on the ecumenical front, at least among the mainstream denominations in this country. We have Churches Together in England, and at local level up and down the land. We have innumerable ecumenical partnerships, and grassroots projects, such as those working together to address homelessness, hunger and debt. Ecumenism is no longer the abstract goal it once was. It is a visible and tangible fact. Christians have learned in recent decades that if the Church as a whole is to survive, we need to set aside our doctrinal differences and work together, even if we still can’t always worship together. George Bell would have applauded this, while he might have been sad at the decline in numbers and the living circumstances of many people that has prompted so much of it.

But what about the role of the World Council of Churches today? It still undoubtedly has a major role in keeping communications open between national church bodies in many countries. Yet there is one area in which much remains to be done. That is in promoting interfaith relations. We should note that as we meet here today (4 February 2019), the general secretary of the WCC is joining the Grand Imam, together with Pope Francis, in attending a Global Conference of Human Fraternity in Abu Dhabi. I believe that were George Bell alive, he might be playing an active role in promoting such work. So many of the crises the world faces today are due to lack of understanding and co-operation between the various faiths: especially Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Look at the problems of the Middle East in general, and the Holy Land in particular. Look at the rising tensions here in our own country. And above all, look at the current refugee crisis. If ever a time were needed for interfaith dialogue leading to a World Council of Faiths, that time is surely now. And I am sure that George Bell would have been at the forefront of it.

As for the word ‘peacemaker’, the late bishop was called a peacemaker for more reasons than one. He not only denounced the gratuitous bombing of German cities – for which in turn he was himself denounced – and reached out to a large number of Germans, who were not and never were Nazis. He befriended many individually, beginning with Dietrich Bonhoeffer – and with my father – and helped many escape and find a home in this country, in some cases initially here in Chichester. He demonstrated, through his own example, that peacemaking begins not with international treaties but in our own homes. Again, his work with refugees played a huge part in this. Without such concern for one’s neighbour in the broadest sense (as in the parable of the Good Samaritan), lasting world peace does not stand a chance, especially in these days of impending environmental disaster and the need to share all that we have with those who have nothing and those who have lost everything.

So to me it is striking that the words used to describe George Bell in the church calendar make no specific reference to his work with refugees, although they do perhaps subsume it. From a personal point of view, of course, that is the most important aspect of all his works. He probably saved my father’s life, and I probably therefore owe my very existence to him. He already knew my father, who had been introduced to him by Dietrich Bonhoeffer in 1933. They became firm friends, all actively engaging in the struggles of the embryonic Confessing Church; and Bell referred to both of the younger men as ‘his two boys’, the sons he had never had. When my father found himself a refugee in this country in 1937 on the grounds of his non-Aryan parentage and of his own front line involvement with the Confessing Church in Germany, it was to Bell that he repeatedly turned for support, not only in terms of hospitality – with which both George Bell and his wife Henrietta were unfailingly generous – but also for help with confronting bureaucracy, insensitivity, ineptitude and often hostility on the part of those from whom he might have expected more support. Bell personally intervened on his behalf on a number of occasions, not least when he was interned in 1940 as an ‘enemy alien’ in the Isle of Man; and he did the same for many others in similar situations. He personally sponsored several dozen non-Aryan pastors to come to this country, and we know that the Bishop’s Palace here in Chichester was often full of refugees during those years.

So I am positive that George Bell would be doing something at a very personal and grassroots level to help refugees in this area now. Hence the proposal that we ourselves do something about it, in his name. At this point I would like to hand over to Roger Pask to say a few words about the work of the organisation he founded, Sanctuary in Chichester.

[Roger Pask’s talk included the background to SiC, together with case studies of a few individual ‘appeal rights exhausted’ asylum seekers whom the organisation has been able to help. He introduced a proposal to develop an international centre for refugees and asylum seekers in the Chichester area which would be a living memorial to George Bell’s own work in this field]

Thank you, Roger. In conclusion, I am grateful to all those who have done so much to defend, and to restore, the memory of George Bell. I am grateful both on my father’s behalf and on my own. Moreover, I am grateful in a strange sort of way because this whole sorry episode, which has sought to discredit a man who was not only one of the greatest bishops, but possibly one of the greatest public figures of the 20th century in this country, has given me the incentive to find out more and personally engage with the reality of the man who until a few years ago was little more than something of a legend in my immediate family. It has given me the opportunity to make new friends here in Chichester and elsewhere, whom I would have been unlikely to have got to know otherwise. And it has – probably inadvertently – challenged me, as indeed a church should, to seek to bring good out of what I believe to have been the very great wrong that has been done to George Bell’s reputation. It is now for us to begin to put that right. Professor Andrew Chandler, in the current [1 February 2019] edition of the Church Times, wrote under the heading ‘George Bell: the life matched the legacy’. Let us ensure that from now on, the legacy matches the life of this great man, and helps him to live on in the lives and the memories of many generations to come.

My final message to this meeting is one of invitation. I pray that all of us here will find some way not only of continuing the efforts toward restitution of names of buildings and other material memorials to George Bell, but will join with us in helping to create a living one in which I am certain he would have been involved and would have rejoiced. And I pray that the message that will go out from this place will be one of invitation also, that others may feel drawn to join us. Thank you very much.

Ruth Hildebrandt Grayson

03 The Resolutions

Sandra Saer: Now the resolutions. You have them on the other side of your agenda. After each resolution …. Peter Mullen sent a note about the significant cloud. He said the only significant cloud is the one over the two heads of our church – without naming names!

We will vote after each one.

Number 1: Archbishop Justin Welby to apologise for his “significant cloud” remark concerning Bishop Bell.
Those in favour? I think it is clear.

New speaker: May I ask you ask those against?

Sandra Saer: Anyone against? That is unanimous then.

Number 2
Bishop of Chichester, Martin Warner, to invite Barbara Whitley, Bishop Bell’s niece, for a face-to-face meeting. (She has already requested such a meeting.)

New speaker: I know from Barbara Whitley directly, and correspondence with Jimmy James, that she does not want such a meeting prior to an apology. She does not want to meet with him unless he apologises and retracts. You might want to amend resolution 2.

Sandra Saer: If you can leave it to me to reword it. Are you in agreement? Thank you for that.

New speaker: Is it not a contradiction?

Sandra Saer: Can you suggest the rewording of 2? [reads text] : Bishop of Chichester, Martin Warner, to invite Barbara Whitley, Bishop Bell’s niece, for a face-to-face meeting. (She has already requested such a meeting.)

New speaker: Can you leave this with me. I will come back to you before the end of the day.

Sandra Saer: Is that OK? Ruth and I can sort that afterwards.

Number 3
Chichester Cathedral’s Dean, the Very Rev’d Stephen Waine, and Chapter to restore the name of 4 Canon Lane to George Bell House
Those in favour? Anyone against? Don’t let them dare say they are against!

Number 4
Chichester Cathedral’s Chancellor and Canon Librarian, the Rev’d Dr Anthony Kane, to permit the reinstatement of Bishop Bell’s portrait and plaque

New speaker: The chancellor is on the point of leaving.

New speaker: Next week. He is going to Portsmouth.

Sandra Saer: Do we have a new person?

New speaker: It is the decision of the Dean and Chapter, not the chancellor.

Richard: The chancellor has presented the picture in the Bonhoeffer room today. That resolution has been half achieved as he has had the grace to take the picture down from the private Cathedral library and bring it here today.

Sandra Saer: I think we want to get the wording of these right. I think we will say the permanent reinstatement.

New speaker: Don’t address it to someone who is leaving. Address it to the Dean and Chapter.

New speaker: Maybe in George Bell House. That is where we want it.

New speaker: We want clarity.

Sandra Saer: Chichester Cathedral’s Dean and Chapter. Can’t we put his name in? To permit the permanent reinstatement of the portrait and plague in George Bell House. Those in favour?

Number 5
Chichester Cathedral’s Chancellor and Canon Librarian, the Rev’d Dr Anthony Cane, to permit the reinstatement of Bishop Bell’s portrait and plaque

Can anyone help me with the wording of that?

New speaker: It would be better to put the wording in.

New speaker: It just mentioned him without saying there is a cloud over his name.

Sandra Saer: What should we do?

New speaker: The guide book isn’t available at the moment. We want Bishop Bell’s position to be reinstated to how it was. Those in favour?

Sandra Saer:
Number 6
The General Synod to undertake a Full Debate at the earliest opportunity, regarding the serious implications arising from Lord Carlile’s Report and Timothy Briden’s Report

We have been promised that. It should stay as a resolution.

New speaker: They are trying to get 100 signatures.

Sandra Saer: It says undertake.

New speaker: It won’t be on there if there aren’t 100 signatures.

New speaker: To aim to.

Sandra Saer: Is that ok?

New speaker: I have a further suggestion.

Richard: We can take action ourselves in writing to our General Synod’s representatives. I think it would be a good idea for us all to write directly to our representatives. I didn’t know who they were until yesterday. As it is on 28th – the General Synod. I think Martin and David are saying please urgently write. Then something may happen.

Sandra Saer: Can you take that on board?

New speaker: Not everyone is aware of the omission in the terms of reference.

New speaker: It will come out in the full debate. Someone will make that clear in a debate.

Sandra Saer: We don’t want to get too complicated. We have covered it. The General Synod to aim… Are you off Sir Jeremy? He is one of my authors and he is a friend.

New speaker: I want to say how I agree with what the Bishop has said. I’m not a lawyer. I was supposed to be a diplomat. There were one or two weasley words. It is not quite enough. You are innocent according to things going back in history for a long time, until you are proven guilty. That is that.

New speaker: Could I read out a possible rewording of 2? Subsequent to an apology as in resolution 1 Barbara Whitley to be asked by the relevant church authorities if she would be willing to meet with Bishop Martin.

Sandra Saer: That is better. Can you vote on that? Those in favour? Thank you.

02 Opening messages

Sandra Saer: Shall we start? Shall we begin again? I would like Canon Smith-Cameron to give the opening prayer.

Ivor Smith-Cameron: Let us pray. Eternal God, you called Bishop Bell of Chichester to claim your glory in a life of peace making. Keep the leaders of your church faithful and bless your people through your ministry. Let the church grow through the stature of your son. Amen.

Sandra Saer: We are running behind. I think it was interesting that the Bishop came and talked to us. Although we didn’t agree with everything he said, it was a good gesture.

I’m going to read three statements. One was read by Gavin. I’m not sure everyone heard it. This is the statement from Lord Carlile of Berwick.

“I hope this event will add to the clamour for the church to admit the awful mistakes it has made with unsubstantiated allegations against Bishop Bell. His name should never have been publicised before allegations were investigated. The Church should accept that my recommendations should be accepted in full and Bishop Bell should be declared by the Church to be innocent of the allegations made against him.”

I will read the next one. It is important I read it. It is from the General Synod – Martin Sewell and David Lamming.

“No doubt those who honour Bishop Bell this year will be honoured due process has occurred to bring closure to the sad chapter of life of the Church.

We are glad the reports have brought clarity and rigorous analysis in an unsatisfactory investigation. You will applaud the support from Archbishop Justin for a tribute to Bishop Bell in Canterbury Cathedral Close.

Bishop Martin has been in a difficult position. He has had to support institutional decisions. He was one of the minority who expressed concerns about the sufficiency of the evidence. Dialogue with your local bishop is a good place to begin.

Bishop Bell remains under a significant cloud. When allegations fail to meet the legal standards of proof, however much sympathy we have for the accuser, justice must be fair to all parties.

We will ask members of Synod to sign the Private Members Motion. We need 100 signatures. Inevitably many members await the decision on the later allegations before putting their names to the motion.”

“We wish you a good meeting. We will continue to serve the cause of justice to bring these matters to a satisfactory conclusion. We are sure Bishop Bell would commend us to work towards Christian reconciliation.”

One more statement, from Lord Carey.

“Dear Richard and friends. I’m sorry I can’t be with you. The recent Briden report and the Lord Carlile report makes it clear a miscarriage of justice has been done. A person is innocent until proven guilty. This must be followed in all future allegations – dead or alive. We want to associate Bishop Bell’s name with the buildings and schools. I want to thank Richard Symonds efforts to clear the Bishop’s name. Few have been so industrious. Thank you Richard.”

(loud clapping)
Sandra Saer: Richard is not liking this, but we had to do it!

The following presentations, many of them based on records made by Electronic Note Takers (ENTs) are available from the list below:

01 The Bishop of Chichester, Martin Warner

This article is based on the record of an electronic note taker (ENT) hired to provide deaf attendees with a rendering of what people said in real time. It is a phonetic account, first and foremost, taken down in the heat of the moment. An echo of what was said rather than a reflection of what might have been written before or since.

Sandra Saer: I would like to extend a very warm welcome and we are glad that Martin Warner, the Bishop of Chichester is here. I have a couple of comments before we continue.

In October 2008 the Cathedral hosted a weekend of events to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the death of Bishop Bell. A huge congregation heard Rowan Williams dedicate George Bell House as a centre for vocation and education. Doctor Williams said; “May the wisdom and tradition of Bishop Bell always be honoured in this place.”

How aptly this describes our aspirations here, and how fitting it is to be held here. All the supporters have never swerved from their intention of restoring Bishop Bell to his place in history.

Bishop of Chichester, Martin Warner: I would like to begin by reiterating some of the things I said when the report from Judge Timothy Briden was released. I said – referring to the Carlile report: ‘We have learnt that the boundaries of doubt and certainty must be stated with great care and how it is in the public interest…’ We recognise the hurt done to Bishop Bell’s family and those who support him. We apologise for our shortcomings in this regard. In the future we will recognise how painful this has been. The quest for certainty has been defeated by the passage of time. Bishop Bell cannot be proven guilty. We ask those who hold opposing views to recognise the strength of commitment to justice. The good things Bishop Bell did in his life will stand the test of time. I cited just two examples from that.

The Briden report indicated there was no substance requiring any further action. The publication gave us an opportunity to go back and make an apology in the light of the Lord Carlile report and I hope it also indicated that the process of investigation into the new information, that some of the failures have been highlighted and lessons learnt. It was at least a step in the right direction. That’s what we wanted to put on the public record, our failures in the original investigation, where they were identified, and our hopes that the good work of Bishop Bell will stand the test of time.

I was invited to come this morning because of the great concern existing among you for the question of Bishop Bell’s reputation and how it will be marked, observed, or celebrated. To go back to the question of what it is that establishes a reputation – how does a person become outstanding in the regard of those who know them, and more widely? It seems to me that one of the major factors is that people speak well of a person. It is report that makes a person famous for their good deeds. There are other things, which a person may have built or created. But it is essentially the report that creates a reputation. So, it seems that for us in the diocese and the Church of England at large, it is important that we are able to speak of the achievements, the good things that Bishop Bell did. There have been a number of occasions when this has happened – in 2017 for the preparations and celebration of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, with celebrations in Coburg, linked to this diocese. I was invited there. Celebrations included the Roman Catholic church and the Lutheran church. In the address I gave, I spoke clearly about our presence there being part of Bishop Bell’s legacy.

At home, we have the paintings at St Michael’s Church in Berwick – there is a campaign for those to be made more accessible. I went to the anniversary of their dedication, and preached quoting his words and praising his contribution to the arts. These things have been reiterated subsequently. It seems the capacity to speak in this way is important for us. It’s also important not just for people like you, but also for the vast numbers of people for whom Bishop Bell is not a familiar figure. Why should this matter which has touched his reputation be so important? The ability to speak well of him and who speaks to many of the issues which touch our own day, like our relationships with Europe. There are relationships which touch the communication of the Christian faith. There are issues touching the life of this diocese in this regard. This is where I believe history will tell the good deeds of Bishop Bell and I believe they will stand the test of time.

There is one more thing to add, about this house. A number of people, including some of you, have written to me about the renaming of the house. You are all aware that this is not my direct responsibility – it is a matter for the Dean and Chapter. You may say that bishops have influence, and that’s certainly true. My encouragement to the Dean and Chapter would be – the original grant for this house was discussed originally in 2006. It came from a religious community – the three remaining sisters wanted the bulk of the assets to be used as a grant and buying this house, particularly for support and education of the clergy, for retreats, and for the work of reconciliation which Bishop Bell had been so instrumental in. It was very evident to me that the very noble expectations and the terms on which the grant was made, and its origin, had been lost in the short-term mists of time. Who speaks about the community of the Sisters of the Cross? Very few people, and that seems a very serious oversight. They said they would like the patronage of Bishop Bell to be associated with their community fund. I said to the Dean that I think this is a moment to relaunch what was paid for with that money. They gave all they had left for this wide-ranging set of purposes. Looking at the accounts – this runs as a pretty bijou B&B and makes quite a good profit. The profit is used across the cathedral in a range of contexts for the purposes the sisters gave their money for. There is a range of teaching opportunities in the lectures, an arts programme. We as a diocese occasionally use the facilities here for the teaching of curates in the first four years of formation. These purposes seem to be important for recovery. I would encourage them to undertake a relaunch for the purposes for which the money was given and place very clearly the whole of that work under the patronage of Bishop Bell, and to narrate here the gift by the sisters, and to make a clear connection. I don’t think simply renaming it George Bell House will just do the job. We cannot rewrite history, but we must do better. The re-examination of the grounds for which this house was based.

New speaker: Do you carry the views of the Dean and Chapter too?

Martin Warner: I can’t speak for them in terms of decision-making.

New speaker: May I ask about the ambiguity? The complete innocence of Bishop Bell has not been established, it was said – but there is no ambiguity. I felt you felt there was a possibility of guilt.

Martin Warner: Briden was about new information. There was nothing in there which required further action and that can be dismissed. He made no statement about the original allegations. Lord Carlile’s report opened up new areas revealing failures from the past. The phrase I used is that ‘we are not able to speak with any certainty in any direction’.

[From the floor – That’s not right, that’s unacceptable]

New speaker: First of all, the original issue about Carol wasn’t in the Briden report, but that was the Church’s decision. It was clear from the Lord Carlile report – he said the case would not have gone to court, let alone for him to be found guilty. Under those circumstances – and the weakness in Carol’s account is seen in the accounts covered in the Briden report. The legal figures made their position clear. The established church seems to say – if an ordinary person… that’s a basis for very serious discrimination against people and miscarriages of justice. Salisbury Cathedral celebrated the Magna Carta, but we undermined it. In terms of the house name, the Sisters would be remembered in terms of this building being given over. Just renaming it doesn’t change what happens here, but to call it George Bell House reminds people what it is for. 4 Canon Lane doesn’t mean anything. The fact that profits may be used for things that were close to Bishop Bell’s heart get lost in the accounts. People think money coming in here goes to the church roof. They’re not aware of other things going on here. Renaming the house will put under people’s noses what a fine man he was.

Gavin Ashenden: Lord Carlile has just released a statement. He says; Bishop Bell’s name should never have been publicised [reads from press release]: “Those terms of reference were imposed on Lord Carlile and Briden. Lord Carlile speaks up quite clearly saying that Bishop Bell was innocent.”

Martin Warner: If you read Lord Carlile’s statement he talks about due process but doesn’t say what it is. He touches on a critical issue, publication – and we are clear on how wrong we were on publicising the process. One difficulty for us is that differences between criminal law and a civil claim are difficult to understand, and talking about innocent or guilty is easier. But these categories are not used in law. The crucial issue was publication, for which I think he points to us getting this wrong.

New speaker: The legal distinctions are very clear; it must be beyond reasonable doubt for criminal law. Carol’s claims balanced against the idea that everyone is innocent until proven guilty – Lord Carlile is not talking about the process. Bishop Bell is innocent – most here are troubled because the idea of innocence until proven guilty touches everyone. We are defending a tradition here.

Sandra Saer: I think you have answered a lot of questions, but we do have to get on with the programme. One man has been waiting patiently.

New speaker: I am grateful for the Bishop’s attendance – I am Peter and my wife and I were devout members of the Cathedral until this matter arose. We have been in exile since that time. We felt the moral authority of this cathedral has been so damaged. We felt the reputation of Bishop Bell had been tarnished without due cause. The Dean and Chapter said unequivocally that he was guilty. We have done everything we can to enter into a dialogue. We have not had any communication in three years. A friend told us that on Sunday, when an apology might have been appropriate, nothing was said. I respect the Bishop for coming here, but I hope you can see that those of us who have continued to struggle – for us fine words are not enough. The renaming of this house would be an important first step.

New speaker: One way would have been to include Carol – why was she excluded from the terms of reference?

Martin Warner: On the basis of her terms of reference. In consultation with her – Gemma Wordsworth who worked with her, and one thing which became very evident was the immense pressure put on Carol because of the case. We believed we could not allow any further burdening. She has suffered at least three times at the hands of the Church. When she related the child sexual abuse in the 1990s, the Bishop’s response at the time was inadequate. She was clearly suffering. When these were reported again, and the cataloguing of multiple occasions of those abused – in 2013, it was nearly two years of constant enquiry and investigation before any settlement was made. None of us know what that is like, to be interrogated as if you were the perpetrator. To revisit these dark times and tell them again to more than one person – so we believe that she must be spared any further damage. The fault lies with us as the institution and it is clearly identified in Lord Carlile’s report as having gone public. We have to own up to that and face it. I’m very clear about that. I take part of the responsibility. If you want to know about justice, it’s not about guilty or innocent, but what is made public. Had we said nothing about a settlement with Carol, had there been a confidentiality clause, none of this would have reached the public domain. On that note, that is where we are at present. I have no further mandate to be able to make statements to take us into further territory. Lord Carlile directs our attention here.

New speaker: You are taking responsibility for the wrong blame!

Sandra Saer: One more question – will you forgive me? We all want to have a plaque which is already made, and we would like it on the door. Is there any way in which you could persuade the Dean about that? It doesn’t impinge on anything else.

Martin Warner: It has to be their decision. He and the Chapter must make it.

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